Fix Foggy Windows in Mesa
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Foggy Glass Disease. Looking Through Hazy Windows.
Is your window foggy? If so, welcome to the growing club of unhappy owners of the hazy glazing.
This article is intended to instruct readers how to check their glass, shed some light on reasons why the glass
became foggy, and give some practical solutions.
We assume that at this point you have already had your glass cleaned and have removed a deposit of foreign
material (e.g. paint overspray) from the list of possible suspects. Furthermore, we would ask you to rub glass
surfaces in order to verify whether they are smooth. Glass deteriorates in presence of water and alkali, developing
a rough surface, which gives it a slightly hazy appearance. Also, some types of scratches and surface blemishes
form dispersed patterns obstructing vision. Polishing an ordinary, annealed, uncoated glass with mild abrasives and
acidic treatments may restore the appearance.
Unless you know the difference, it's best to consult a professional before undertaking such task because many
glass defects are irreparable, and repair attempts may render them unsafe and diminish your rights. The deficiency
is primarily seen in insulated glass units (IGU) and laminated glass, and typically stems from two different
phenomena: de-hermetization of insulated glass and a chemical attack in the laminates. These two are the most
common, but there are cases that fall outside this general division. We would not attempt to exhaust the subject.
Our goal is to provide an explanation that would be practical enough for the early decision making, as opposed to
producing a scientific paper. How to tell which one you have: insulated glass units (IGU) or laminated glass or
both? If the haziness periodically disappears or changes location within a unit, you are most likely dealing with
an excess moisture condensing within the IGU's cavity. However, if the haziness stays in one place or grows,
particularly around edges, you are most likely a victim of a delamination of the laminated glass
Replacement of the glass without the diagnosis and treatment of the underlying cause is almost always futile -
the fogging would reappear in a matter of months. We need you to verify the age of your glass; modern architectural
glass is expensive but has a relatively short lifespan ranging from 5 to 25 years.
There are chances that your glass simply failed due to its age. On the other hand, a replacement of a
prematurely failed glass without curing the underlying problem would virtually guarantee a quickly ensuing
repetitive failure. Owners sometimes replace foggy glass panes only to discover that the costly replacement was
futile. This is particularly typical in Florida, where almost all new glazing is laminated due to the hurricane
protection requirements, and the frequent underlying reason of the failure is a poor design and construction of
framing holding the glass.
Insulated Glass Fogging Longevity of modern glass is often a significant overlooked factor in the overall cost
of owning IGUs and in life-cycle analysis. Fogging should be expected as a normal result of gradual deterioration.
IGUs typically carry a warranty for 10 to 20 years, and this is often their actual lifespan. They are built as a
hermetically sealed assembly, but in many cases the fogging occurs much earlier, and is sometimes found to be
caused by a fabrication or design error.
Unlike the laminated glass delamination, this subject is fairly well covered by American standards, including
the dedicated ASTM E2189 "Standard Test Method for Testing Resistance to Fogging in Insulating Glass Units." The
mechanism is fairly simple. Haziness indicates presence of excessive volume of moisture in the cavity between glass
layers. Moisture can enter the cavity in several ways, depending on the construction of the spacer and its seals.
It's initially absorbed by the desiccant, and then the excess periodically condenses or freezes on cool
The failure is sometimes traced to the primary seal of glazing spacers. In a modern IGU, the longevity of the
primary seal, typically made of a butyl sealant, depends on many factors, including exposure to shear stresses. And
so, generally speaking, a well-made, conservatively framed, small-size, transparent window in a permanently shaded
location would generally last longer than e.g., a large glass pane, dead loaded by its inner ply, installed as a
spandrel and exposed to large temperature and pressure variations, which are all conditions known to increase shear
stresses of primary seals.
Owners often find limited warranties to be useless for two chief reasons: 1) the marginal ratio (sometimes less
than 5%) of the reimbursed cost of material to the total replacement cost and a waiver of consequential damages, 2)
Broad exclusions that indemnify glass providers. Let's quote some typical exclusions that apply to insulated glass:
"This warranty does not apply to or cover : (a) Units in excess of (50) square feet; (b) use of or application to
an IGU, it’s installation or subsequent maintenance, materials that are not compatible with the IGU organic seals ,
coated or laminated glass surfaces; (c) failure caused by broken glass or other damage to an IGU; (d) IGU that have
been retrofitted with a solar, blast resistant, or security contact film adhered to any glass surface by others
than the fabricator; (e) an IGU installed in a continuous or cyclical high moisture environment, including without
limitation swimming pool enclosures and greenhouses without the use of fabricator's approved humidity control
devices; ( f) any IGU installed in facilities which may incur high vibration; (g) an IGU installed in sloped
glazing; (h) an IGU solely utilizing Lexan®, polycarbonate, acrylic or other plastic materials as a component lite
or ; (k) IGU containing unsealed capillary tubes; (l) any IGU not paid for in full; (m) an IGU that has not been
stored, installed and maintained in accordance with GANA Guidelines, specific instructions and other documented
standard industry practices, not limited to the following instructions, which the installer and purchaser agrees to
follow:" (followed by the list of additional instructions). The presence of excess moisture in the IGU cavity is
often found to be a purely aesthetic consideration, but should be investigated further in a structurally sealed
glazing which often structurally depends on the integrity of the spacer assembly.
If occupants find the hazy (and periodically frosted in cold and mixed climates) appearance objectionable, a
questions "can it be repaired" is often asked. A foggy IGU can theoretically be repaired, but a careful analysis of
the overall repair cost versus longevity of a repair would often lead to the conclusion that the replacement may be
the only viable option.
Replacement of failed glass units may lead to the non-uniform appearance of a glazed facade. Due to the often
widespread and systemic character of the failure, the blanket replacement is typically recommended. Matching of the
glass appearance is challenging on aged facades and is recommended chiefly in case of a glass breakage, when the
remaining glass has a high remaining technical life expectancy, or in a severe maintenance budget shortage
Laminated Glass Fogging: "Foggy Glass Disease." While a vast majority of construction and design professionals
is generally familiar with the concept of the insulated glass, due to its 70+ years of presence in the marketplace
and its application mandatory by most modern building codes, we found they are sometimes unfamiliar with the
concept of the laminated glass. In order to avoid loosing them, we feel the need for the elementary explanation
before jumping into the detailed discussion.
A laminated glass is formed by bonding entire surfaces of two or more plies of glass together in order to
achieve redundancy and composite action, with the physical characteristics of the laminate interlayer complementing
those of an inorganic glass. Such an interlayer is tear resistant, preventing a glass pane from vacating its
framing in case of its breakage, it isolates layers of glass preventing transfer of stresses and breakage onto an
adjacent glass ply, it damps some sound frequencies, and screens UV rays. The laminated glass is often recognized
as a replacement of wired and tempered glass in many safety and security applications. In the last two decades, it
became widely used in hurricane-resistant glazing, raising the basic awareness in coastal regions.
How to tell whether your glass is laminated?
At the absence of obvious clues, such as glass stamp, fabrication label, trapped air bubbles, or access to the
edge, the identification is best left to professionals. Also, a glass stamp may not identify the laminated glass,
listing the safety standards, such as 16 CFR 1201 and ANSI Z97.1, shared with a toughened glass. Longevity of a
modern laminated glass is a significant and frequently overlooked life cycle analysis factor.
A laminated glass typically carries a 5+ year warranty, and it indicates its expected lifespan in locations
characterized by high heat and humidity. Coincidentally, those localities (e.g., Windborne-Debris Region and High
VeloMesa Hurricane Zone) where the laminated glass is a prerequisite for protection of openings against windborne
missile impact, are often characterized by high heat and humidity because they are either spread along coastlines
or located in the hot and humid climate or both. Longevity of the laminated glass may be indirectly improved in the
design stage by specifying the European standard EN ISO 12543 "Glass in building- Laminated glass and laminated
safety glass -
Part 4: Test methods for durability" which describes heat and moisture test procedures. Figure 6: A laminated
glass is intended to stay in frame when broken, and prevent simultaneous breakage of plies of glass. Glass laminate
becomes foggy when stretched, indicating the areas stressed after breakage of both plies. New York Mesa. The
appearance of laminated glass is typically specified using Table #1 of ASTM C1172 "Standard Specification for
Laminated Architectural Flat Glass." Like in case of other glass types, it's important to understand the glass
quality criteria stem from production limitations as opposed to users' visual expectations. Fogging within the 15mm
from an autoclaved glass edge and 25mm from cut edges is normally expected in a brand new glass, but this distance
is covered by a glass bite in a typical four-edge clamped framing configuration, and therefore often hidden from
view. Fogging and bubbling are typically found to be signs of failure of the laminate interlayer, often made of
polyvinyl butyral (PVB).
The failure occurs most often by chemical reaction caused by a direct physical contact of the glass interlayers'
edge with substances such as water and solvents, including byproducts released during a curing process of almost
all sealants. PVB moisture content of about 0.5% by weight is enough to cause loss of adhesion to glass. Therefore,
a laminated glass edge should be treated cautiously in design and engineering of architectural glazing. A number of
conditions are well known to contribute to the failure, including: butt-sealed laminated glass edges, edges exposed
to elements (e.g. in exterior glass guards), edges permanently submerged in water (e.g. in depressed balustrade
cradles), or only periodically exposed to standing water (e.g. in many sloped glazing applications). These
conditions are commonly seen in manufacturers' catalogs and architectural drawings.
It's worth mentioning that all the above-mentioned items can be successfully re-engineered to keep the desired
architectural appearance without sacrificing the glass performance; however, in our practice we found that
architects of record are seldom interested in those solutions because they typically delegate the glazing design
and engineering to contractors. Glazing providers in turn indemnify themselves by limited warranties containing
broad exclusions. The warranty is void "if the Laminated Glass is compromised by contact with incompatible glazing
lubricants, glazing soaps, incompatible glazing gaskets, glazing sealants, incompatible cleaning fluids, moisture
or building runoff, gluing or attachment applied films, direct contact with paints, adhesives, solvents or
insulation, or exposure to solvent or chemical fumes.
Installation in a system that does not include a weep system or some means of water repulsion, or used in a butt
joint or structural glazing system, or with edgework (polishing or mitering), or subjected to stress and strain as
a result of localized application of heat, which causes uneven edge stress due to temperature differences in the
glass." A careful reader would probably find that the above exclusion list have exhausted almost all typical
applications of laminated glass, making the average limited warranty an instrument depriving an owner from
essential rights. Also, production defects (such as e.g. use of salty water for glass cleaning prior to lamination)
are sometimes responsible for the delamination, which would be mainly discernible by its location off edges.
Manufacturers are generally known to reimburse manufacturing and fabrication defects in spite of the protective
language of their warranties. However, as mentioned above, a reimbursed cost of material is a small fraction of the
total cost of replacement.
If occupants find the hazy and bubbly appearance objectionable, a questions "can it be repaired" is often asked.
Unfortunately, such a glass cannot be repaired; it can only be replaced and it should be replaced before a
hurricane season because a delaminated glass was found to be structurally compromised. The cost of replacement
varies depending on many factors, with the most typical range $1-10k per pane of glass. Among factors increasing
the cost are a custom glass makeup, size, access, and union labor.
While a replacement of an ordinary laminated glass in a slider may cost less than $500, a replacement of a
custom-made glass pane in a high-rise curtain wall lacking a permanent facade access may exceed $300k, consumed
mainly by general conditons, such as crane setup and operation, street closures, etc. As mentioned above, the
replacement is very often futile without curing the underlying problem which typically lies within the surrounding
glazing assembly. The most typical example is a recurring glass replacement undertaken in glazed doors and windows
in which the edge of the glass is positioned in contact with a seal or water in an insufficiently wept framing.
Such a replacement should be preceded by diagnosis of the underlying problem by a glass expert, and a subsequent
re-design of the glass edge conditions in order to avoid the same problem reoccurring in the nearest future.
Important condideration is the building code compliance.
Commentaries to The Florida Building Code "Existing" clarify the replacement of a glass pane is considered a
repair and not an alteration; therefore, a replacement glass does not need to meet the current building code.
Otherwise, it would most often require a replacement of framing as well, due to the new requirements mandating a
heavier glass. Figure 7: Laminated glass is characterized by poorer dimensional tolerances than other types of
However, this fact is seldom accounted for a glazing design when a standard framing is used, resulting in glass
edge contamination. How To Find Help. If you have a foggy glass, don't replace it without getting diagnosis from
someone knowledgeable, otherwise you may easily end up wasting your money. Architectural glass is one of these
subjects everybody seems to talk about, but we found approximately half of this talk is informed and factual. The
trick is to know which half. If you intend to rely on your architect, contractor, or engineer, we strongly
recommend verifying their knowledge by posing questions to which you already know the answer, for example from this
We sometimes found design professionals presenting foggy understanding of elementary characteristics of
different types of glass. We are often approached by apparently confused building envelope consultants asking about
the glass fogging; therefore, we have a reason to believe that even the average enclosure consultants may not be
privy with glass performance issues.
How can you find someone to help? We found that it's not enough to know someone who in turn knows an expert,
like in the case of clients of the building enclosure consultants mentioned above who eventually got their answers
via a middlemen, because the remediation projects in questions were almost finished by that time, and it was too
late to correct them. Getting a glass expert is challenging for two reasons: they are hard to find and their
services may be considered expensive, and therefore only justified by economies of large projects. There are so few
forensic architectural glazing experts in the country that it seems they know each other by the first name, and
such a tight club is therefore challenging to discover by laymen. Hint: some of them sit on the ASTM committee
called: "E06.51 Performance of Windows, Doors, Skylights and Curtain Walls."